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Not understood as destabilized Brush, video in studio.

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likhacheff wrote:

Don’t understood as destabilized Brush, video in studio.

Why destabilized, it is worth hinge, and to replace such you simply otschyolkivaete single and open shell vstoronu, and mounting your to groundbreaking linear technology an idiosyncratic yoke.

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Uzkovataya car door's is obtained, with I so understood she only with one hand, a milling machine to change awkward will.

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likhacheff wrote:

uzkovataya car door's is obtained, with I so understood she only with one hand, a milling machine to change awkward will.

This payment, And THEY ARE THAT mint, YOU CAN ourselves da DO THIS AT this a device AS MUMBAI see convenient.

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Where can be buy such a pile is?

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apanovic wrote:

Where is can be buy such a pile is?

In khozmagazinakh enormous choice brushes, with long one and short, hard-line and mild pile, purchase and seem toothbrush on next which in turn type in materialnymi abroad.

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Instead cisele case place still Turing, similar on silikonovye, no one knows from what can be their adapt, ah or where buy?

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likhacheff wrote:

In place-lint ignition case place still Turing, similar on silikonovye, no one knows from what can be their adapt, ah or where buy?

This termoshtory, are sold firms in electronic delivery of and configurations refrigeration equipment.
I not advise you such way to, in ventilation experience work 12 years, and in systems Reel rekupiratsii air adopt as times vorsovye brushes, intercontinental flights under work pyleotsosa and contact with any unlevel varnished on many higher than with so-called with shutters.

Last edited by stasblak (Jan 25 2013 17:17:58)

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stasblak wrote:

In khozmagazinakh enormous choice brushes, with long one and short, hard-line and mild pile, purchase and seem toothbrush on next which in turn type in materialnymi abroad.

I has tried all talk is obtained, but through month Brush stray and its efektiuvnost seeks to zero

likhacheff wrote:

In place cisele case place still Turing, similar on silikonovye, no one knows from what can be their adapt, ah or where buy?

I have kogdato was slice of membrane that place on vacuum a news from it Krska and curtain when operate as the is famously few years, but there is one nuance - To memyurana not roared need first partition where will slits and in late every sausage vykolotkoy hack our holes 1-2mm, and then cut
Now Krska and another camping on To membranny not was found what the blue attached 2mm a bit a tad overcooked (the membrane was softly and elastic is) but, too, serves already about gender year

Last edited by Blade (Jan 25 2013 22:11:57)

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That for the membrane, not understood.

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The plunger you in aid, this most a simple. Only first foundation cut on "Turing."
And at all, sponsoring many experimentation in this area I’d say, need to Brush not been moving upward down, and was statsionarna and as can be closer to the surface.
Consider example.
There is terrain altitude 40mm. Rotating blade, too, must be not less (to it by the nut not cling) In end pile is toothbrush (let even 20mm) under seme first layer not reaches until material, and means as a consequence razlet shavings .Iran, and under achieving depth 30 mm will already term is their at the root.

Under firmly established brush not on panel (to not fooled up from axis Z) Brush or pile is or the rubber band or "that any" not will depend on depth submersion such and always cover razlet shavings.
The only minus in such a case - this not hooking off fixing instruments if he higher brushes.
Here is long so.

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likhacheff wrote:

that for the membrane, not understood.

For a vacuum the press, if facades oblitsovyvayut PVC films membranna not need a, if with veneer, then under aid membranny (accented different thickness and from ranykh materiallov)

Last edited by Blade (Jan 25 2013 23:38:05)

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In continuing discuss as dust-the nozzle sitch on spindle for struzhkootsosa
Can be with a few snapshots of. :cool:

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Leaner and meaner, but most importantly functionally http://s2.uploads.ru/t/0UPZt.jpg
http://s2.uploads.ru/t/VhXrc.jpg

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Ask the question in topic pro Pressure and, but answer not well cared for by, so will repeat here: Who as struggles with particles from acrylic,, she just splinters far anywhere, but only not in vacuum?

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likhacheff wrote:

Was asking question in topic pro Pressure and, but answer not well cared for by, so will repeat here: Who as struggles with particles from acrylic,, she just splinters far anywhere, but only not in vacuum?

To fight with dust from acrylic, you in first need sleeve without static conditions price have us in Kuzbass 100mm dozen 530 rub / reel) the second suction dust needs to produce the vacuum cleaner tsiklonnogo type with large obyomom productivity, for examples witness here is such (this simply the review to what you need to move)
http://interlaser.ru/strujkosos
http://goods.marketgid.com/goods/1707/53341026/
In this spirit, the usual vacuum never tackles with such task in full obyome so as vacuum of free space there is, and here is productivity there is no.

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1) Today 09 :47: 36
Subtitles, but as same with static electricity within a garden hose to a - steel wool within staring not will or all talk pro the availability of a metal zazemlennoy spiral within a garden hose to a not suschestveny?
2) Dear, leveraged some experience: Please, otpisyvaya about absence of problems with suction dust from-under press, specify not only-mark (productivity) struzhkootsosa, but and equals 1.0 productivity press on wood shavings, camping on E. Dostatochnost this struzhkootsosa for this depth drawing and speed press.
For themselves have been arguing inconclusively calculate a soft-spoken (asynchronous) ekonomnyy struzhkootsos for press with 3 kW shpindelem and billed max. Speed 25 flushed / shadowing and chasing

Last edited by Ученик (Jan 26 2013 16:31:01)

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Ученик wrote:

1) Today 09 :47: 36
Subtitles, but as same with static electricity within a garden hose to a - steel wool within staring not will or all talk pro the availability of a metal zazemlennoy spiral within a garden hose to a not suschestveny?
2) Dear, leveraged some experience: Please, otpisyvaya about absence of problems with suction dust from-under press, specify not only-mark (productivity) struzhkootsosa, but and equals 1.0 productivity press on wood shavings, camping on E. Dostatochnost this struzhkootsosa for this depth drawing and speed press.
For themselves have been arguing inconclusively calculate a soft-spoken (asynchronous) ekonomnyy struzhkootsos for press with 3 kW shpindelem and billed max. Speed 25 flushed / shadowing and chasing

Edited Pupil (Today 19 :31: 01)

Pro hose a bit of suction, no continuous grounding not need to, there the entire tsenost in material from which he is made. По поводу производительности, конкретно для вас обьясню, например при покупке бытового пылесоса упор нужно делать не на мощность двигателя, а на мощнсть всаса она указывается в барах (центробежный вентилятор, как и насос система которая при закрытом всасе практически не испытывает нагрузок, а вот при закрытие выхлопа вы нагружаете двигатель) для станка, что бы подобрать пылеотсос нужно две цыфры 1 размер гофры с колпаком(щёткой)(которые вы собираетесь использовать) вторая размер рабочей зоны станка (пргосчитать длину гофры и учесть потери на вакуум в нутри неё) дадите эти цыфры, я в свою очередь озвучу вам, то что вы конкретно хотите услышать.

Last edited by stasblak (Jan 26 2013 16:44:09)

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Two options brushes
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Both not like in mind impossibility of use on rare theatres.

D to do "a soaring on one perform well" option.

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VVChaif wrote:

Two option brushes

















Both not like in mind impossibility of use on rare theatres.

D to do "a soaring on one perform well" option.

What pyleotsos casting an? Sometimes people seek reason bad work this adjustment not in is place ()

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Deal not in this vacuum cleaner., but on your question answer.
A vacuum cleaner the usual bvtovoy "rocket" those s :)
The reason in mind impossibility of use on rare theatres.with sense this transcribed in 12 Summit this themes.
Length cisele 50mm. (In sight on photo) now being mill a long 40 mm. Pile is already on 10 mm in diameter more, and means whether the rim brushes under full zaglublenii will term is an OTB terrain.
If same take mill 60-70mm. The the first layers (10-20mm) Brush not will with booking until material and as a consequence steel wool will razldetatsya.
All of this on example reliefs and
Under raskroe or textures on average lines works on cheers!

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VVChaif wrote:

Delo not in this vacuum cleaner., but on your question answer.
Vacuum the usual bvtovoy "rocket" those s
The reason in mind impossibility of use on rare theatres. With sense this transcribed in 12 Summit this themes.
Length-lint ignition 50mm. (In sight on photo) now being mill a long 40 mm. Pile is already on 10 mm in diameter more, and means whether the rim brushes under full zaglublenii will term is an OTB terrain.
If same take a milling machine 60-70mm. The the first layers (10-20mm) Brush not will with booking until material and as a consequence steel wool will razldetatsya.
All of this on example reliefs and
Under raskroe or textures on average lines works on cheers!

Я не зря спросил о стружкососе, вы ничего не придумаете и всегда будете мучаться, дело в том для эфективной работы отсоса нужна производительность, проще сказать ваш пылесос имеет скажем производительность в 300 м/куб, но имеет на выход давление, вот те 10мм про которые вы пишите не будут являться проблемой скажем для вентилятора среднего давления с производительностью 2500м/куб при этом с испльзованием патрубка как у вас возрастёт скорость воздушного потока удаляемого из зоны обработки, а вот щётка является своего рода диффузором или зонтом, и зазор должен быть иначе откуда сосать воздух.

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Not d debate, you certainly more me in this issue know. I simply love to experiment.
I not refuse from aid in calculations, struzhkososa. On one of forums I reared question calculation assemble snails and cyclone, but calculations "indicates air" me not managed defeat. And this an important fact.
Possessing pipe diameter of in 100mm, a common a long 10 meters and bends for looms (3 but closing) in 50 diameter of and a common a long on turret until every - what need the flow of air to provide suction shavings from two looms simultaneously? Ah or poprostomu what should be dozen snails and its traction provided direct paddles for ensure that tedious flow of. Can be reduce variables of incorporating permanent magnitude gather steam; snails 3,000 about / shadowing
Crossings of bring dozen wheels snails.
Thank you.

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VVChaif wrote:

Don’t d debate, you certainly more me in this issue know. I simply love to experiment.
I not refuse from aid in calculations, struzhkososa. On one of forums I reared question calculation assemble snails and cyclone, but calculations "indicates air" me not managed defeat. And this an important fact.
Possessing pipe diameter of in 100mm, a common a long 10 meters and bends for looms (3 but closing) in 50 diameter of and a common a long on turret until every - what need the flow of air to provide suction shavings from two looms simultaneously? Ah or poprostomu what should be dozen snails and its traction provided direct paddles for ensure that tedious flow of. Can be reduce variables of incorporating permanent magnitude gather steam; snails 3,000 about / shadowing
Crossings of bring dozen wheels snails.
Thank you.

If you not hurry up with solution this issue (couple of days wait) I matter Made to Order and on him as times in Monday, let us to collect struzhkootsos (portal turret until • 3m)
I you'll post an photo and tsyfry, for starters engine 1.5 kW 2850 about, snails, as you its realize, in this design there is no, vane fan met in standard pylevogo fan (are worth horizontal might,) for collection dust is used brezentovyy bag, there is zone tsiklonnogo curl flow of for secession of particles from air, emit air proizvodtsya upward through opera and concertina samples from filtro tissue EU5 /

Last edited by stasblak (Jan 27 2013 00:16:43)

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And silicon Brush, I understand as times and made from vacuum membrane?

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Couple of of references've on design filters and vozdukhovodam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … m37QLyEw#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MCdsVpTGY
On first video interesting construction vstryakhivaemogo filter. At the second air pipe. In short Russians in America. :smoke:

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valb wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MCdsVpTGY

Not in sharp rebuke, at the second video system harvested another failure, wise guys, which not have views about system cleaning, in cleaning middle guidance ranges averting equals least 2.5 diameter duct, simply in such a system will huge losses speed, and dust which is being shifted in this system has greater the speed and this not joke simply proshorkaet the walls Shipper. On this issue so same you can consult have Jarkent have him its grains firm on ventilation.

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VVChaif, in everything design immediately catches in eyes excessively increased Square design (absolutely) vsasa - than less feeding, the more the speed! - I would has reduced until limit possible, until trim flange lines vsasa until size: Only would bolts scooping up and for spindle not tseplyalo

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Ученик wrote:

VVChaif, in everything design immediately catches in eyes excessively increased Square design (absolutely) vsasa - than less feeding, the more the speed! - I would has reduced until limit possible, until trim flange lines vsasa until size: Only would bolts scooping up and for spindle not tseplyalo

As option roundabout the speaker, around spindles, condensation vsasa to attach under angle to wall diffuser.

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stasblak wrote:

How option roundabout the speaker, around spindles, condensation vsasa to attach under angle to wall diffuser.


As times roughly so I have now and done. The vacuum cleaner works Alfred Karcher s building, hose on khomutakh'm a surgical to groundbreaking linear technology, and on all together are wearing right now ring from dense film. In principle works not poorly, only acrylic a dust that spread, yes and the from-for static conditions apparently.

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I constantly aggregating alyum. And dust there is no and when had to 3 days to saw tree I reattach to machine "chandelier just Aleksandr Leonidovich Chizhevskij" and the entire dust's stuck to machine and not was flying.
Truth previous became beat current. In sight many you help reduce global warming I put on a.

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There is whether in Ukraine ready to decisions struzhkoulovitelya under extraction of the f100 mm?

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VVChaif wrote:

contaminated firmly established brush not on panel (to not fooled up from axis Z) Brush or pile is or the rubber band or "that any" not will depend on depth submersion such and always cover razlet shavings.
The only minus in such a case - this not hooking off fixing instruments if he higher brushes.

Hold on tight on an entrenched parts of axis Z

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likhacheff wrote:

How times roughly so I have now and done. The vacuum cleaner works Alfred Karcher s building, hose on khomutakh'm a surgical to groundbreaking linear technology, and on all together are wearing right now ring from dense film. In principle works not poorly, only acrylic a dust that spread, yes and the from-for static conditions apparently.


Can be a picture of an? Not illustrate as film dust deters

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http://s3.uploads.ru/t/rl9RD.png
Here is you document make in garage conditions nepoganogo cyclone.
http://yadi.sk/d/MEzcaCTY4DHZh

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Sake of experiment from kullera and 2kh bottles brought together, maybe that could, works not on the principle of "cyclone" but on the strange new property kullera create a big-ass vortex is. For serious shavings of course not Felix Blumenfeld, and property dust under hours of processing features tell you collects well.

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Shurikkun wrote:

pravookhorontsі experiment from kullera and 2kh bottles brought together, maybe that could, works not on the principle of "cyclone" but on the strange new property kullera create a big-ass vortex is. For serious shavings of course not Felix Blumenfeld, and property dust under hours of processing terrain collects well.

One of systems ezhektsii, their several species, there is Pressure and, I did promylennyy have themselves on previous work, for cleaning of workshop, there principle, of mosquitos air from a common system applying air enterprises, zasasyval gravel faction 20

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I have such a system Lies accidentally,) wanted to test how well will Kruller removal of those shavings,. Cut off bottom the bottle, pasted Kruller - brought it closer like wetting to wood shavings, the kind willingly for were making out and starters more to stands at have Premium, then had rigged even returned for collection.

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Put vacuum with cyclone, only question - make a mad dash "furrow," pipes smallholder smіttyam. Question increase capacity suction can solve this problem?

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And here is such a pleasant thing not analogy?
http://xn----8sbaodjj6aicmlifiqeo.xn --p1ai/product/pristavka-k-pylesosu-dlja-sbora-zoly-bort-bac-18/
As option before hose vacuum cleaner put the filter

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On what the from forums saw, as make from sanitation pipes "Cyklon", where on suction is worth vacuum. And that, if instead vacuum cleaner istolzovat not on from Model airplanes. Here is such. http://cdn2.parkflyer.ru/static/files/hc/www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/HY003-00108-7B.jpg
Dope have him, modicum snobbishness, in as a engine beskollektornik, camping on E. Prerogatives gather steam;. Think, that can be try.

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maximius wrote:

At what the from forums saw, as make from sanitation pipes "Cyklon", where on suction is worth a vacuum cleaner. And that, if instead vacuum cleaner istolzovat not on from Model airplanes. Here is such. http://cdn2.parkflyer.ru/static/files/hc/www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/HY003-00108-7B.jpg
Dope have him, modicum snobbishness, in as a engine beskollektornik, camping on E. Prerogatives gather steam;. Think, that can be try.


Noise many will

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A different forums made itself system cleaning. For the groundwork took usual build from household an outlet. Choice fell on build with zapiraemoy a lid. A vacuum cleaner with levels noise 57Db can work order 8 hours, but I usually only on draft his'm using constantly included, and under chistovoy periodically. Else understandable from photo. The only, that want remaking - this brush remains on spindle. Will make smaller (perhaps “) with side secrecy to reduce a common Tiananmen suction. This of course not struzhkootsos, but for a small household press mismanaged on is famously. Some mixed reactions by those!
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http://s6.uploads.ru/t/nP6kj.jpghttp://s6.uploads.ru/t/Fb8PK.jpg
In this vacuum cleaner. On anyone case is worth the standard bag. Think to stay ?????.

Last edited by shalek (Dec 15 2013 20:19:55)

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And not easier whether the entire machine close by shady cover, on type laser gravyorov? So and dust, and smells easier throws himself at your feet.

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OnorinKG wrote:

A not easier whether the entire machine close by shady cover, on type laser gravyorov? So and dust, and smells easier throws himself at your feet.

This planned on Spring! Autumn began renovating on balcony but not graduated. Machine will move there (not place in apartment - dust would still flies).
Plan do boxing with it. Yes and clean up easier will.

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Himself made boxing - sound press.

But the most clarion proved a vacuum cleaner – his, too, had to putting in sound.
Made Corps from the TDI, Labyrinth on as, filter 3M, and prerogatives gather steam;. Ah and remain on emotional outburst during.

Now enough comfortable experience – machine 50 centimeters from me (this-hour works) – legke that humming sound, can be to wage adeptness – not boosting voices. + creates vacuum of free space in box – the door boxing is being squeezed by is famously.

PS / 2 not't forget pro the static, me sometimes not too shabby lupilo ever official – until not covered foil i (didn such) - all the surface, and further on “Corps. ”

Last edited by kod007 (Dec 16 2013 16:26:19)

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, too, urgently embarked question - under draft processing many shavings and dust.
Thanks for Sharing (idea do remain from buckets.
But as did brush remains on spindle? Or where taking themselves brushes?

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Baumer wrote:

Thanks for idea do remain from buckets. But as did brush remains on spindle? Or where taking themselves brushes?

Yes such ideas in Internet shaft! Only choose. Like it or with frontal, like it or with cone over that. I decided to with cone over that not do come. Current construction fully suits. Brush remains did from any wood we can find. Painted in Artcam vectors, made sample under sheet silicone, chiffonaded the his on soba and stuffed on glue in bar groove. But with my the vacuum cleaner this Brush a bit not effective. Plan do smaller, camping on E. Reduce zone suction and a bit can decide on perform well. Stuck instead transparent silicone put bristle in several ranks. Many seek to do transparent but me seems, what peeking if all works as need to.

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Creating and thinking. Decided to do from sites remain. Stuck a in him axial hungry fan. Those shavings, sucks cocks increasingly time milling on cheers, already not the first month. Flight an excellent!
http://s6.uploads.ru/t/02Dqn.jpg
http://s6.uploads.ru/t/u9Vfg.jpg

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People good, seriously, once engage producing system cleaning.
Who-thread can produce a a normal apparatus and send his me on Sakhalin?
Machine RJ-8010. Spindle 1,5kvt. h =1 00mm.
And you'll take your money earn and me not breathe dust :)

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